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Dancing Star Paradoxes

 

“The attitude that nature is chaotic and that the artist puts order into it is a very absurd point of view, I think. All that we can hope for is to put some order into ourselves.”
Willem de Kooning

 

“One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.”
Friedrich Nietzsche

 

“How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.”
Niels Bohr

 

Create from chaos a new order
like sand castles doomed when the tide comes in
A fun game that symbolizes our lives
we create temporary structures of thought and deed
one day the tide comes in and those structures vanish
while we build another
never realizing the friendship of entropy
for without it we could not create
Eternity would pass and we would stagnate
in castles that have become prisons
yearning for destruction’s kiss
so we could create anew.

 

Blessings, G

 

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Desire BurningDesire Burning by G A Rosenberg

 

Caught up with the Elements WithinCaught Up Within the Elements Within by G A Rosenberg

 

Dancing Star Paradoxes

 

“The attitude that nature is chaotic and that the artist puts order into it is a very absurd point of view, I think. All that we can hope for is to put some order into ourselves.”
Willem de Kooning

 

“One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.”
Friedrich Nietzsche

 

“How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.”
Niels Bohr

 

Create from chaos a new order
like sand castles doomed when the tide comes in
A fun game that symbolizes our lives
we create temporary structures of thought and deed
one day the tide comes in and those structures vanish
while we build another
never realizing the friendship of entropy
for without it we could not create
Eternity would pass and we would stagnate
in castles that have become prisons
yearning for destruction’s kiss
so we could create anew.

 

Blessings, G

 

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Desire BurningDesire Burning by G A Rosenberg

 

Caught up with the Elements WithinCaught Up Within the Elements Within by G A Rosenberg

 

Meeting the Paradox

 

“How wonderful that we have met with a paradox. Now we have some hope of making progress.”
― Niels Bohr

 

I have found it so easy to get stuck in my own point of view at times. I’ve held on to a belief or a thought about such things as my own abilities or my feelings about others, only because either an alternative point of view had not entered the picture or I did not put more effort into seeking it out. I mean ideas we have for years are comfortable yet holding on to them unchallenged is the fastest way to stagnate that I can think of….
Yet when I do consider the alternative view and find the value in it amazing things start to happen. I may not be able to reconcile the two things that easily (How can I have no artistic ability yet start to make art?) yet in that reconciliation and synthesis I can claim a part of myself that I’ve refused to before. By considering a new way of approaching reality I can change my reality into something far beyond what it was before.
Blessings, G

 

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Fading In and OutLines Fading In and Out by G A Rosenberg

 

Tongues of Fire
Tongues Of Flame by G A Rosenberg

Spider’s Lady and Rupture in Language

After a few seconds of silence, she managed to find some words. “Joe, are you familiar with the phenomenon Samuel Delany calls ‘rupture’?”
“Hey, I never get that carried away.”
“There it goes again. Rupture occurs when you think you are in the middle of a conversation with someone. . . and suddenly discover that you’ve merely been making noises at each other, that there is a previously unsuspected chasm between you beside which the Marianas Trench is a pothole. We have come to a point
of rupture, Joe. You don’t know what I mean, and I’m not sure I understand what you said. I think we must be using different maps.”
“Oh yeah?”
~”Either that, or you’re a real jackass.”
I did what PIs always do when insulted: shrugged, and went for a wisecrack. “Not much point in being a fake jackass, is there?”
“Ask the man who sent you here.”
That reminded me that The Man would be upset with me if I blew this commission-and he had succeeded in scaring the shit out of me. “TouchÈ. Okay, let’s rewind to where we went wrong and start over. What were you really asking me to do, when I thought you wanted me to ‘Rent-A-‘Rection’?”
She shook her head. “It won’t help, I tell you. We’ve got different maps. The street I’m pointing to doesn’t exist on yours.”
“Okay. How do I get one of your maps?”
“You’ll just- have to draw your own, I’m afraid.”
I sighed. “Look, Lady, I’m not trying be to difficult. But how the hell am I supposed to do that?”
Priscilla spoke up. “Map-making isn’t hard. Just tricky.”
“I’m listening,” I said politely.
“Four stages. The obvious three are: look around you carefully, record what you see, and integrate it. It’s the very first part that’ll trip you up, and it’s the most important of all.”
“It’s the whole thing,” Lady Sally corrected. “The other three happen automatically; you couldn’t stop ’em if you tried-once you do the first thing.” –
Damn it, the P1 isn’t supposed to be the straight man. “Whichï is?” –
– “Throw out all the old maps you already have in the glove compartment,” Priscilla said.
Lady Sally nodded. “Forget all the reports of earlier explorers. You can’t discover America if you keep shying away from the edge of the world. And if you do find it, you’ll waste years asking to be taken to Kublai Khan.”

Lately, I’ve been watching quite a few videos on youtube. I find many of the discussions that the more thoughtful videos engender to be quite instructive. I wonder at times if people really listen to each other’s words either in the videos themselves or in theirt comments and replies. I find some of the debates fascinating. Questions such as whether suffering is objective or subjective. Do we create our own universe and everything in it or do we perceive reality as being objective and/or consensual?  When we conceptualize our perceptions do we use language or does language come as an expression of those perceptions? I find all of these questions to be fascinating.

At times it seems apparent that for at least some of the people discussing these issues, the opposing points of view cannot even be conceived. It appears to me as if they cannot map the opposing viewpoint onto their view of reality. At the point in the discussion where these areas get hit on each other’s maps, the conversation is what science fiction writer Samuel Delaney called rupture.

In the now unfortunately out-of-print novel Lady Slings the Booze , Spider Robinson has his characters discuss the term rupture and how to deal with maps that may be different from our own.

After a few seconds of silence, she managed to find some words. “Joe, are you familiar with the phenomenon Samuel Delany calls ‘rupture’?”

“Hey, I never get that carried away.”

“There it goes again. Rupture occurs when you think you are in the middle of a conversation with someone. . . and suddenly discover that you’ve merely been making noises at each other, that there is a previously unsuspected chasm between you beside which the Marianas Trench is a pothole. We have come to a pointof rupture, Joe. You don’t know what I mean, and I’m not sure I understand what you said. I think we must be using different maps.

….

” The street I’m pointing to doesn’t exist on yours.”

“Okay. How do I get one of your maps?”

“You’ll just- have to draw your own, I’m afraid.”

I sighed. “Look, Lady, I’m not trying be to difficult. But how the hell am I supposed to do that?”

Priscilla spoke up. “Map-making isn’t hard. Just tricky.”

“I’m listening,” I said politely.

“Four stages. The obvious three are: look around you carefully, record what you see, and integrate it. It’s the very first part that’ll trip you up, and it’s the most important of all.”

“It’s the whole thing,” Lady Sally corrected. “The other three happen automatically; you couldn’t stop ’em if you tried-once you do the first thing.” –

Damn it, the PI isn’t supposed to be the straight man. “Which is?” –

– “Throw out all the old maps you already have in the glove compartment,” Priscilla said.

Lady Sally nodded. “Forget all the reports of earlier explorers. You can’t discover America if you keep shying away from the edge of the world. And if you do find it, you’ll waste years asking to be taken to Kublai Khan.”

Why would we wish to open our minds or maps to new territories we haven’t accepted before? Why travel anyplace new? I can think of several reasons. Perhaps we wish to learn whatever the new outlook may teach us and in my experience there exist  few viewpoints, opinions, philosophies or places that have absolutely nothing to teach us. Even what may seem to be an  absurd notion to us may lead to some fascinating paths or fancies. Perhaps the more points of view that we can understand, the more comprehensively we can defend our own .Perhaps as the Danish physicist Niels Bohr said “The opposite of a correct statement is an incorrect statement, but the opposite of a profound truth is another profound truth.” . and  It might be that the ‘profound’ truths that oppose our own may be the hardest for us to map.

No matter the reason, I find it difficult to understand how people have these troubles entertaining viewpoints that seem to be in opposition to their own. After all if the metaphor of mapping new territory does hold up, wouldn’t most people enjoy a free trip, no matter where it might lead?